Project: 2671 (Run 40, Clone 60, Gen 29)

BeamWalker · Post by **BeamWalker** » Thu May 14, 2009 10:18 am

I really had enough of this WU. I don't know how many points I have lost over the last weeks. Almost every third WU ends with the same Client-core communications error. Is there anyway to avoid this ?? I'm using the Diskless folder on an usb stick.
I know that SMP has still somehow beta status, but this is getting unacceptable.

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[00:20:22] Folding@Home Gromacs SMP Core
[00:20:22] Version 2.07 (Sun Apr 19 14:51:09 PDT 2009)
[00:20:22] 
[00:20:22] Preparing to commence simulation
[00:20:22] - Ensuring status. Please wait.
[00:20:31] - Assembly optimizations manually forced on.
[00:20:31] - Not checking prior termination.
[00:20:32] - Expanded 4836950 -> 24032501 (decompressed 496.8 percent)
[00:20:32] Called DecompressByteArray: compressed_data_size=4836950 data_size=24032501, decompressed_data_size=24032501 diff=0
[00:20:32] - Digital signature verified
[00:20:32] 
[00:20:32] Project: 2671 (Run 40, Clone 60, Gen 29)
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[00:20:32] Assembly optimizations on if available.
[00:20:32] Entering M.D.
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[07:42:02] CoreStatus = FF (255)
[07:42:02] Client-core communications error: ERROR 0xff
[07:42:02] Deleting current work unit & continuing...
[07:42:16] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[07:42:16] + Attempting to get work packet
[07:42:16] - Connecting to assignment server
[07:42:17] - Successful: assigned to (171.67.108.24).
[07:42:17] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[07:42:17] Loaded queue successfully.
[07:42:31] + Closed connections
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[07:42:36] + Processing work unit

Post by **susato** » Thu May 14, 2009 5:20 pm

Hello Beamwalker and welcome to the forum!

This WU (Project: 2671 (Run 40, Clone 60, Gen 29) ) has not yet appeared in the database, but the previous generation was completed by another donor on 2009-05-13 00:05:00. I don't think you have had this WU over and over again, since it was just issued a day ago. You must be having problems with other work units as well. Is it possible that the thumb drive you're using is beginning to fail?

Can you post your queue here? (If diskless folding doesn't have a queue display function, then use qd from Bas's site ) Once we see the rest of the queue, we can check whether the other failed WU in your queue have been completed by other donors or are genuinely fouled up. Thanks!

Post by **bruce** » Thu May 14, 2009 5:27 pm

Welcome to the foldingforum, BeamWalker.

Since you're new to the forum, you may not be aware that beta software from FAH is distributed on a as-is basis to people who choose to run it. Those people help the project to to find bugs, and apparently ERROR 0xff is a relatively new problem and very little is known about it. If beta testing is not your "cup of tea" then perhaps you should consider running multiple copies of the released client -- one copy for each CPU-Core in your system. It is extremely stable.

BeamWalker · Post by **BeamWalker** » Thu May 14, 2009 9:34 pm

I'm sorry but I just see Project 2671 in my FahMon, I don't remember ever single run, clone and gen. My system is absolutely stable. I was running the windows smp client on this machine for more than 6 months with little problems (besides the low ppd in comparison with the linux one).
I used 3 different usb sticks and 1 cf card -> results was always the same. Approximately every third wu bites the dust, sometimes after 20% sometimes after more than 90% which is kind of annoying.

I extracted the infos in my queue file. maybe you can make anything of these.

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Current index: 6
 Index 7: empty
 Index 8: empty
 Index 9: empty
 Index 0: empty
 Index 1: finished 1920.00 pts (256.494 pt/hr) 9.62 X min speed
  server: 171.64.65.56:8080; project: 2677
  Folding: run 16, clone 63, generation 8; benchmark 0; misc: 500, 200
  issue: Wed May 13 18:40:32 2009; begin: Wed May 13 18:41:03 2009
  end: Thu May 14 02:10:11 2009; due: Sat May 16 18:41:03 2009 (3 days)
  preferred: Sat May 16 18:41:03 2009 (3 days)
  core URL: http://www.stanford.edu/~pande/Linux/x86/Core_a2.fah
  core number: 0xa2; core name: GROCVS
  CPU: 1,0 x86; OS: 4,0 Linux
  smp cores: 4; cores to use: 4
  tag: P2677R16C63G8
  memory: 3963 MB
  assignment info (le): Wed May 13 18:40:30 2009; BAC4B2B9
  CS: 171.67.108.25; P limit: 524286976
  user: BeamWalker; team: 70911; ID: 361E9D39B3823F12; mach ID: 1
  work/wudata_01.dat file size: 4835597; WU type: Folding@Home
 Index 2: deleted 1920.00 pts
  server: 171.67.108.24:8080; project: 2671
  Folding: run 40, clone 60, generation 29; benchmark 0; misc: 500, 200
  issue: Thu May 14 02:20:05 2009; begin: Thu May 14 02:20:22 2009
  end: ZERO; due: Sun May 17 02:20:22 2009 (3 days)
  preferred: Sun May 17 02:20:22 2009 (3 days)
  core URL: http://www.stanford.edu/~pande/Linux/x86/Core_a2.fah
  core number: 0xa2; core name: GROCVS
  CPU: 1,0 x86; OS: 4,0 Linux
  smp cores: 4; cores to use: 4
  tag: P2671R40C60G29
  flops: 1063608955 (1063.608955 megaflops)
  memory: 3963 MB
  assignment info (le): Thu May 14 02:20:04 2009; BAC40BD3
  CS: 171.67.108.25; P limit: 524286976
  user: BeamWalker; team: 70911; ID: 361E9D39B3823F12; mach ID: 1
  work/wudata_02.dat file size: 4837462; WU type: Folding@Home
 Index 3: deleted 1920.00 pts
  server: 171.67.108.24:8080; project: 2671
  Folding: run 40, clone 60, generation 29; benchmark 0; misc: 500, 200
  issue: Thu May 14 02:20:05 2009; begin: Thu May 14 09:42:31 2009
  end: ZERO; due: Sun May 17 09:42:31 2009 (3 days)
  preferred: Sun May 17 09:42:31 2009 (3 days)
  core URL: http://www.stanford.edu/~pande/Linux/x86/Core_a2.fah
  core number: 0xa2; core name: GROCVS
  CPU: 1,0 x86; OS: 4,0 Linux
  smp cores: 4; cores to use: 4
  tag: P2671R40C60G29
  flops: 1063608955 (1063.608955 megaflops)
  memory: 3963 MB
  assignment info (le): Thu May 14 09:42:17 2009; BAC4AC3E
  CS: 171.67.108.25; P limit: 524286976
  user: BeamWalker; team: 70911; ID: 361E9D39B3823F12; mach ID: 1
  work/wudata_03.dat file size: 4837462; WU type: Folding@Home
 Index 4: finished 1920.00 pts (250.471 pt/hr) 9.39 X min speed
  server: 171.67.108.24:8080; project: 2671
  Folding: run 40, clone 60, generation 29; benchmark 0; misc: 500, 200
  issue: Thu May 14 02:20:05 2009; begin: Thu May 14 12:43:40 2009
  end: Thu May 14 20:23:36 2009; due: Sun May 17 12:43:40 2009 (3 days)
  preferred: Sun May 17 12:43:40 2009 (3 days)
  core URL: http://www.stanford.edu/~pande/Linux/x86/Core_a2.fah
  core number: 0xa2; core name: GROCVS
  CPU: 1,0 x86; OS: 4,0 Linux
  smp cores: 4; cores to use: 4
  tag: P2671R40C60G29
  flops: 1063608955 (1063.608955 megaflops)
  memory: 3963 MB
  assignment info (le): Thu May 14 12:43:21 2009; BAC499AE
  CS: 171.67.108.25; P limit: 524286976
  user: BeamWalker; team: 70911; ID: 361E9D39B3823F12; mach ID: 1
  work/wudata_04.dat file size: 4837462; WU type: Folding@Home
 Index 5: deleted 1920.00 pts
  server: 171.67.108.24:8080; project: 2671
  Folding: run 19, clone 74, generation 30; benchmark 0; misc: 500, 200
  issue: Thu May 14 20:39:27 2009; begin: Thu May 14 20:40:09 2009
  end: ZERO; due: Sun May 17 20:40:09 2009 (3 days)
  preferred: Sun May 17 20:40:09 2009 (3 days)
  core URL: http://www.stanford.edu/~pande/Linux/x86/Core_a2.fah
  core number: 0xa2; core name: GROCVS
  CPU: 1,0 x86; OS: 4,0 Linux
  smp cores: 4; cores to use: 4
  tag: P2671R19C74G30
  flops: 1063587984 (1063.587984 megaflops)
  memory: 3963 MB
  assignment info (le): Thu May 14 20:39:26 2009; BAC50A39
  CS: 171.67.108.25; P limit: 524286976
  user: BeamWalker; team: 70911; ID: 361E9D39B3823F12; mach ID: 1
  work/wudata_05.dat file size: 4837966; WU type: Folding@Home
 Index 6: folding now 1920.00 pts
  server: 171.67.108.24:8080; project: 2671
  Folding: run 19, clone 74, generation 30; benchmark 0; misc: 500, 200
  issue: Thu May 14 20:39:27 2009; begin: Thu May 14 22:10:43 2009
  due: Sun May 17 22:10:43 2009 (3 days)
  preferred: Sun May 17 22:10:43 2009 (3 days)
  core URL: http://www.stanford.edu/~pande/Linux/x86/Core_a2.fah
  core number: 0xa2; core name: GROCVS
  CPU: 1,0 x86; OS: 4,0 Linux
  smp cores: 4; cores to use: 4
  tag: P2671R19C74G30
  flops: 1063587984 (1063.587984 megaflops)
  memory: 3963 MB
  assignment info (le): Thu May 14 22:09:48 2009; BAC51CEB
  CS: 171.67.108.25; P limit: 524286976
  user: BeamWalker; team: 70911; ID: 361E9D39B3823F12; mach ID: 1
  work/wudata_06.dat file size: 4837966; WU type: Folding@Home
Average download rate 323.142 KB/s (u=4); upload rate 68.505 KB/s (u=2)
Performance fraction 0.894784 (u=2)
Average pph: 253.447, ppd: 6082.72, ppw: 42579.1, ppy: 2221653

Post by **bruce** » Fri May 15, 2009 4:57 am

BeamWalker wrote:I used 3 different usb sticks and 1 cf card -> results was always the same. Approximately every third wu bites the dust, sometimes after 20% sometimes after more than 90% which is kind of annoying.

How big are the flash cards? Is is possible that they're running out of space?

BeamWalker · Post by **BeamWalker** » Fri May 15, 2009 6:15 am

No, the cf card has 2 GB, the usb Sticks 2x2GB and 1x8GB. The 8GB and one of the 2GB models are brandnew. I tried different ones because I've expected them to be the weak link in the chain either. But how I said, the same thing.
An installation on a harddrive is not an option for me, because my system wouldn't be silent anymore. The other advantage of the usb version is, that I don't have to deal with linux as an operating system.

Post by **bruce** » Fri May 15, 2009 6:45 am

I've run Notfred's version on usb sticks and also other Linux/FAH installations from usb sticks. I do know that Linux is not happy when a partition gets full which was my earlier guess. That's true of any OS and it's true whether you're using a usb stick or a hard-drive. Is it possible that you ran out of space -- that's reasonably likely on the 2 GB devices, depending on what you're installing. Have you seen this error on the 8GB device? Personally I wouldn't use less that 4GB and I'd be sure to pick high-quality flash drives. YMMV.

BeamWalker · Post by **BeamWalker** » Fri May 15, 2009 9:53 am

There is nothing else installed on the flash drives. Since 512Mb easily should do, I don't think size is an issue here. At the moment only about 200MB are in use. Neither it is the brand of the devices. I use only OCZ, Sandisk and Trancend (CF Card).
The problem with the 8GB model is the same btw.
If notfreds usb version would be this fragile and hardware dependent I think others would have similar problems. Maybe I'll try the CD Version later and check. Still I think that is highly unlikely that 4 flash devices are all somehow faulty.

Post by **susato** » Fri May 15, 2009 12:05 pm

Hi Beamwalker - Thanks for posting the queue. The other WU in there was

Project 2671, Run 19, Clone 74, Gen 30

and you completed it successfully.

I'm not familiar with the diskless folding and wonder whether the installations are using obsolete versions of the client or cores. Your original post indicates that you're running the latest (2.07) core. What about the client? If you check the FAHlog.txt right after startup, youll find the client version number right at the top of the file in between lines of ###. The most recent version is 6.24.1 or 6.24R1. Older versions have poorer checkpointing capability, meaning that when folding is started and stopped, (or perhaps if the thumb drive is moved among computers) they are more susceptible to error. Please check & let us know. Also, what version of the LInux kernel is being used? The version in Ubuntu 8.10 (ends with a 27) is known to be bad for Folding.

BeamWalker · Post by **BeamWalker** » Fri May 15, 2009 2:06 pm

I am not sure which kernel is being used for the notfred diskless folding version. Unfortunately I can't check because this folding rig does not have a monitor installed and I am not sure whether I can get this information via network or not. I am pretty sure though that it is not the newest kernel. The client is version 6.02 so not the newest one either.
If my problem is linked to the method of folding (which is at least a possibility) I am wondering why not more people experiencing any problems. After alI it is the same client communications error over and over again -> and a very mean one, since all work done up to then is being deleted.

Post by **susato** » Fri May 15, 2009 2:21 pm

If the client is 6.02 I expect that the kernel is contemporaneous with it, which would place it several generations back.
Would you like guidance on replacing the 6.02 client with the most recent version?

bollix47 · Post by **bollix47** » Fri May 15, 2009 3:22 pm

One of the first things that the notfred distro does when it starts up is download the client program. Unfortunately, the link for this is hard-coded and it is not always the latest.

What I do on both my CD and USB versions is download the latest client from Stanford on another computer and copy the fah6 file to the backup USB flash drive in the appropriate folder .... I think it's 1 (one), but it's wherever the queue.dat file is located. When notfred's distro starts it sees that the program is already there and can't create the link to the older version of the program.

I used this method for 6.24 when I noticed that it was still using 6.02. It does work fine and my logs verify that the latest client is being used.

Hope this helps. Good luck.

BeamWalker · Post by **BeamWalker** » Fri May 15, 2009 8:11 pm

Thank you for your reply. I changed the client as you said and so far it is working. The Fahlog indicates that client 6.24b is used. I'm anxious to see if anything changes. I will keep you posted.

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# Linux SMP Console Edition ###################################################
###############################################################################

                       Folding@Home Client Version 6.24beta

                          http://folding.stanford.edu

###############################################################################
###############################################################################

Launch directory: /etc/folding/1
Executable: ./fah6
Arguments: -local -forceasm -smp 4 

[20:07:25] - Ask before connecting: No
[20:07:25] - User name: BeamWalker (Team 70911)
[20:07:25] - User ID: 123F82B3399D1E35
[20:07:25] - Machine ID: 1
[20:07:25] 
[20:07:25] Loaded queue successfully.
[20:07:25] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[20:07:25] Project: 2671 (Run 6, Clone 31, Gen 30)
[20:07:25] + Attempting to get work packet


[20:07:25] + Attempting to send results [May 15 20:07:25 UTC]
[20:07:25] - Connecting to assignment server
[20:07:26] - Successful: assigned to (171.67.108.24).
[20:07:26] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[20:07:26] Loaded queue successfully.
[20:08:55] + Closed connections
[20:08:55] 
[20:08:55] + Processing work unit
[20:08:55] Core required: FahCore_a2.exe
[20:08:55] Core not found.
[20:08:55] - Core is not present or corrupted.
[20:08:55] - Attempting to download new core...
[20:08:55] + Downloading new core: FahCore_a2.exe
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[20:09:06] Verifying core Core_a2.fah...
[20:09:06] Signature is VALID
[20:09:06] 
[20:09:06] Trying to unzip core FahCore_a2.exe
[20:09:06] Decompressed FahCore_a2.exe (4341288 bytes) successfully
[20:09:06] + Core successfully engaged
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[20:09:11] + Processing work unit
[20:09:11] Core required: FahCore_a2.exe
[20:09:11] Core found.
[20:09:11] Working on queue slot 09 [May 15 20:09:11 UTC]
[20:09:11] + Working ...
[20:09:11] 
[20:09:11] *------------------------------*
[20:09:11] Folding@Home Gromacs SMP Core
[20:09:11] Version 2.07 (Sun Apr 19 14:51:09 PDT 2009)
[20:09:11] 
[20:09:11] Preparing to commence simulation
[20:09:11] - Ensuring status. Please wait.
[20:09:21] - Assembly optimizations manually forced on.
[20:09:21] - Not checking prior termination.
[20:09:21] - Expanded 4845328 -> 24012685 (decompressed 495.5 percent)
[20:09:21] Called DecompressByteArray: compressed_data_size=4845328 data_size=24012685, decompressed_data_size=24012685 diff=0
[20:09:22] - Digital signature verified
[20:09:22] 
[20:09:22] Project: 2671 (Run 22, Clone 63, Gen 31)
[20:09:22] 
[20:09:22] Assembly optimizations on if available.
[20:09:22] Entering M.D.
[20:09:29] Completed 0 out of 250000 steps  (0%)

BeamWalker · Post by **BeamWalker** » Sun May 17, 2009 7:53 am

Hi,
That seemed to do the trick. I was folding the last 4 WU's (also Project 2671) without any problems. Thank you all for your time and effort, I appreciate it.

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Project: 2671 (Run 40, Clone 60, Gen 29)

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