ETA after expiration: cancel WU?

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richmintz
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ETA after expiration: cancel WU?

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I've been folding for about a month on 6 CPUs, no problem, everything completes normally. But yesterday I got a WU that is showing an ETA of 16 days, even though expiration is at 7 days. (This is on my most powerful CPU by far, which normally completes within 24 hours.)

Just wanted to confirm: should I cancel the WU following the instructions below? I don't want to screw anything up. (I'm an adept enough user to understand those instructions, but not Folding-sophisticated; I just want to make sure.)

viewtopic.php?f=96&t=29514#p291830

Also: why did I suddenly get a monster WU?
Neil-B
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Re: ETA after expiration: cancel WU?

Post by Neil-B »

If you post you log someone can check .. It may be a malformed WU in which case the researchers will want to know about it or it could be something else.
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Re: ETA after expiration: cancel WU?

Post by bruce »

How much of the WU had been processed when you saw the ETA? The estimate is meaningless unless there has been enough processing completed for the software to detect a rate of progress. (Typically 1% or 2% within some continuous folding. I wouldn't trust the 16 day number.
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Re: ETA after expiration: cancel WU?

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I'm pretty sure it ran overnight and still made little progress.

I'll verify it tonight. I just set it running at full power and I'm leaving the computer idle for the next 10 hours. It's currently (10:12pm EDT) at 6.00%, ETA 15.95 days. Last log entry: "02:11:37:WU00:FS00:0xa7:Completed 15632 out of 250000 steps (6%)"
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Re: ETA after expiration: cancel WU?

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Are you folding with your Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T9600 @ 2.80GHz?
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Re: ETA after expiration: cancel WU?

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No, this is with the i7-10510U. It was my most powerful machine (until yesterday when I got another). And it's the CPU WU, not the GPU.

It ran overnight unobstructed with the machine idle, and did about 1% per 3 hours. It's showing roughly 10 days left, which correlates with that rate. There is nothing in the log for last night indicating a problem. I don't know what's happening, but I'm going to cancel the WU now and try another.
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Re: ETA after expiration: cancel WU?

Post by Neil-B »

If you posted a your log someone might be able to advise/assist … At the moment we don't even know what WU PRCG you are having issues with, what your setup is, or how you client is configured, what power setting, etc. … You can ask questions but without anything to go on no-one has anything to base answers or suggestions on so we can't really be of much help :(
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Re: ETA after expiration: cancel WU?

Post by richmintz »

Dumped the WU (had to delete and reinstall FAH, couldn't figure out how to get Windows to run as admin).
Was actually on 7.5.1 with the stalled WU (sorry for posting on wrong board). Now I'm on the current 7.6.9.
The moment I fired up the new install, it pulled a CPU WU, which it's running at normal speed. All good now.

I can't get the GPU slot to configure, but I'll post that in the proper place. [EDIT: this was fixed on restart, GPUs.txt was missing, known issue per other thread]

Thanks all!
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Re: ETA after expiration: cancel WU?

Post by peterjammo »

bruce wrote:Are you folding with your Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T9600 @ 2.80GHz?
Just in case anyone reading this thread thinks that would be reason enough for a 16 day ETA, I've been folding 24/7 for about a month with four Core 2 Duo laptops and the longest time to complete was 3.5 days on a T5850 @ 2Ghz.
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Re: ETA after expiration: cancel WU?

Post by Neil-B »

… but if for some reason it was only running on one core that would put in in the ballpark? … I am guessing that bruce knows the OP has such a bit of kit and was trying to work out (in the absence of a log to identify configuration or even what project) what might be causing this issue … Though there are a couple of fairly large CPU WUs around that might tax your farm, maybe not to 16 days but maybe quite close to expiry date - although I'm hoping those projects are marked for release to the higher core machines.

btw … how is the folding farm doing? … added any more bits to it?
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Re: ETA after expiration: cancel WU?

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Sure, I was just pondering the possibility of someone searching the forum for that CPU and deciding it wasn't worth using.
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Re: ETA after expiration: cancel WU?

Post by Neil-B »

Absolutely … If it folds WUs within Expiration Deadline then it is fair game … I really ought to fire up my old boxes just to see if I can get them within the time limit … They might be a couple of magnitudes slower than my server but they would be a whole lot quieter :)
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And sorry, didn't scroll your post to the end. All good here (apart from the electricity bill), All 3 Li and the Pi C2d Fujitsus are running sweetly with almost no issues. One needs the occasional reboot to get wireless to reconnect, but otherwise they're solid. 4 core Win 10 has had a few more minor hiccups but has settled in too. Last I looked, I'd done about 250 wu for the month. Only very occasional wu is going past Timeout, and nothing has approached Expiration since I tried and failed with the Atom netbook.

Thinking back, I did have to set my cores to 2 to get both to fold, so you could well be right on the OP problem.
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Re: ETA after expiration: cancel WU?

Post by richmintz »

OP here, I do in fact have a Core Duo etc. etc. (what Bruce said), it’s a MacBook Pro 5,2 from 2009. It’s my lowest-end hardware of the 6 I’ve tried folding with, and it ... folds 24/7 with no problem I can see; the current WU will end up taking about 28 hours to run.

It even ran fine on my Chromebook in Linux mode, although I stopped doing that because I wanted the machine for actual use. :)

Now we’re off topic, so I’ll stop. Happy folding!
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Re: ETA after expiration: cancel WU?

Post by richmintz »

Just following up: with what I know now, I assume this was a heat problem. I'm probably going to stop folding on this machine until I can get a cooling mat.
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