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debs3759
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Folding with Fermi GPU

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I have a GTX 580 lying around doing nothing. Is it able to fold in Windows 10 x64? Don't want to waste my time setting up a system with it if it's no longer supported.
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Re: Folding with Fermi GPU

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It is no longer supported.

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/g ... x-580.c270

T fold, you need to support OpenCL 1.2 and 64 bit Floating Point Math. (Double Precision)

Thw GTX 580 does support 64 bit Floating Point Math, but not OpenCL 1.2.
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Re: Folding with Fermi GPU

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Thanks. Guess I'll put a GT 730 in the test system and just run wcg on the CPU until I get another later GPU. Or leave it until I can afford a recent GPU.
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Re: Folding with Fermi GPU

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Kepler is the older supported GPU ... but it's no longer guaranteed since NV is moving it to legacy support too ...
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Re: Folding with Fermi GPU

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https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers ... or-desktop

Nvidia is discontinuing support for Kepler GPUs so any new feature F@H needs in the future will be problematic.
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Re: Folding with Fermi GPU

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Thanks for the replies. I decided to stick with a GT 730 and a couple of 720s for graphics on my wcg systems until I can afford GPUs capable of folding.
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Re: Folding with Fermi GPU

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I would suggest not wasting your time on buying GT730 GPUs.
They often go for ridiculous $90 prices, when $120 gets you a GTX1060, which has over 3x the performance.
If you can, don't buy anything under a GTX 1650 Super. (that includes the GTX1650, GTX 1000 series, or 900 series).
While the GTX 1070, 1070 Ti, 1080 and 1080Ti still fold well, they are not very energy efficient compared to the GTX 1600 series, or RTX series of GPUs.
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Re: Folding with Fermi GPU

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MeeLee wrote:I would suggest not wasting your time on buying GT730 GPUs.
They often go for ridiculous $90 prices, when $120 gets you a GTX1060, which has over 3x the performance.
If you can, don't buy anything under a GTX 1650 Super. (that includes the GTX1650, GTX 1000 series, or 900 series).
While the GTX 1070, 1070 Ti, 1080 and 1080Ti still fold well, they are not very energy efficient compared to the GTX 1600 series, or RTX series of GPUs.
I'm not. I already have a 730 and 3 x 720, which are only really any good for video output. I already fold on a 1060, which, with a decent overclock is giving me up to 700K ppd. I'm hoping to get better cards than that, but as ill health prevents me working, that'll take a while. I am going to fold on an HD 7970 on an AM3 system when I get my custom water loop set up for the CPU (an FX 8150, which I expect to get rather hot when running wcg on it) and the current system.

For NVidia cards, I hope to afford as least as good as a 1070 for 2 or more i7 systems of different generations, if not a 3060 if I can afford one new when prices drop.
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Re: Folding with Fermi GPU

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debs3759 wrote:I am going to fold on an HD 7970 on an AM3 system when I get my custom water loop set up for the CPU (an FX 8150, which I expect to get rather hot when running wcg on it) and the current system.
If I understand correctly, driver support is ending for the HD 7000 series: https://www.techpowerup.com/283644/ten- ... hics-cards
If so, you might have to run an old driver and OS to fold - which could be done in a virtual machine. You'd have to determine if the PPD/watt is worth it at that point. I got the HD 7770 folding in a Linux virtual machine after driver compute support had ended, but it took a lot of time to set up.
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Re: Folding with Fermi GPU

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Oh well, it's my best AMD card, so I'll use it for as long as I can :)
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Re: Folding with Fermi GPU

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debs3759 wrote:
MeeLee wrote:I would suggest not wasting your time on buying GT730 GPUs.
They often go for ridiculous $90 prices, when $120 gets you a GTX1060, which has over 3x the performance.
If you can, don't buy anything under a GTX 1650 Super. (that includes the GTX1650, GTX 1000 series, or 900 series).
While the GTX 1070, 1070 Ti, 1080 and 1080Ti still fold well, they are not very energy efficient compared to the GTX 1600 series, or RTX series of GPUs.
I'm not. I already have a 730 and 3 x 720, which are only really any good for video output. I already fold on a 1060, which, with a decent overclock is giving me up to 700K ppd. I'm hoping to get better cards than that, but as ill health prevents me working, that'll take a while. I am going to fold on an HD 7970 on an AM3 system when I get my custom water loop set up for the CPU (an FX 8150, which I expect to get rather hot when running wcg on it) and the current system.

For NVidia cards, I hope to afford as least as good as a 1070 for 2 or more i7 systems of different generations, if not a 3060 if I can afford one new when prices drop.
If finances are an issue, consider that 4x GT 720/730 GPUs use up about 100W, which is what you run a single GTX 1600 series GPU at.
If you fold 24/7, the annual price of electricity can far exceed the price you paid for a GPU.
Your best bet is to just buy a more modern GPU, that way you either can get more work done per watt, or, tune it to use less power per work done.
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Re: Folding with Fermi GPU

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I didn't say I intend to fold on such low end GPUs. I'll be using them for graphics on some i7 systems (Sandy Bridge and later) I'll be running wcg on until I get newer cards.
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Re: Folding with Fermi GPU

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Right now, I have a GTX1050ti that is for the most part folding good. Though I will be moving it to my Fedora 34 system soon.

Anything slower, is no longer going to cut it.

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Re: Folding with Fermi GPU

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My gtx750ti is still folding wus easilly within timeout but I have to admit my rtx3070 is a tad quicker :) ... I can see a time in the not distant future where the gtx750ti will be retired probably before it starts exceeding timeouts tbh
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Re: Folding with Fermi GPU

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I finished moving that GTX1050ti to my Fedora desktop this morning, and retired the GT710's altogether. I also pulled one of the GT1030's, but I'm keeping it as an "emergency use" folding card for now.

By moving that GTX1050ti, and pulling the GT710 off of my Ryzen 3 system, it may help with reducing the amount of time I'm spending on GPU driver related "baby-sitting".

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