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by MtM
Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:11 am
Forum: Discussions of General-FAH topics
Topic: Quad-core 2Ghz vs Dual-core 4Ghz - Which faster?
Replies: 78
Views: 14438

Re: Dual-core 2Ghz vs Single-core 4Ghz - Which faster?

Specifically, on the setup that I'm using, I have 6x GPU clients and a quad-core CPU. Each GPU client consumes around 20% of a single core (it's actually a bit less, but 20% is 1/5, a nice round number for the sake of the explanation. Here's an ASCII-art example of what happens when all run at the ...
by MtM
Sun Nov 16, 2008 1:14 pm
Forum: Discussions of General-FAH topics
Topic: Quad-core 2Ghz vs Dual-core 4Ghz - Which faster?
Replies: 78
Views: 14438

Re: Dual-core 2Ghz vs Single-core 4Ghz - Which faster?

Hmm, if you're running notFred's distro you don't have a gui but try this instead. You presumably know the IPs of your VMs, so use something like putty to ssh onto the notFred VM and once logged in, try running "top". What you'll see is that the VM doesn't show 100% usage on the cpu. The ...
by MtM
Sun Nov 16, 2008 10:40 am
Forum: Discussions of General-FAH topics
Topic: Quad-core 2Ghz vs Dual-core 4Ghz - Which faster?
Replies: 78
Views: 14438

Re: Dual-core 2Ghz vs Single-core 4Ghz - Which faster?

If they're dependent on each other then surely there must be a sequential aspect that prevents them being efficient on a 4x1 instead of a 1x4. Oh, and "trust me, you're not running 4 smp clients on a quad core"? Do you have any idea how patronising that sounds? I'm a Technical Architect a...
by MtM
Sun Nov 16, 2008 10:26 am
Forum: Discussions of General-FAH topics
Topic: Quad-core 2Ghz vs Dual-core 4Ghz - Which faster?
Replies: 78
Views: 14438

Re: Dual-core 2Ghz vs Single-core 4Ghz - Which faster?

I could run a single Windows SMP client on my quad and get around 2200ppd. (Let's pretend that the ppd reflects the benefit to Stanford.) I actually run two Linux VMs each limited to 2-cpus. Each Linux VM runs two Linux SMP clients. This gets 4400ppd. Now some people get all hot under the collar an...
by MtM
Sun Nov 16, 2008 10:03 am
Forum: Discussions of General-FAH topics
Topic: Quad-core 2Ghz vs Dual-core 4Ghz - Which faster?
Replies: 78
Views: 14438

Re: Dual-core 2Ghz vs Single-core 4Ghz - Which faster?

Amount of science done is not dependant on throughput of wu's. That sounds like a contradiction in terms to me. For the record, I understand there is some extra usefulness in a WU being completed quicker, but even though this is the only argument you could be using against what I said, you seem not...
by MtM
Sat Nov 15, 2008 11:02 pm
Forum: Issues with a specific WU
Topic: Project: 5506 (Run 0, Clone 169, Gen 310)
Replies: 2
Views: 312

Re: Project: 5506 (Run 0, Clone 169, Gen 310)

There's no data for this WU in the DB yet :( That's another occurrence of the unreadable result file issue after an UM/EUE ... :? I reported some of these before, also pointed to the fact that it couldn't read the results file and complained about the queue being corrupted. Which after checking wit...
by MtM
Sat Nov 15, 2008 9:26 pm
Forum: Issues with a specific WU
Topic: Project: 5506 (Run 0, Clone 169, Gen 310)
Replies: 2
Views: 312

Project: 5506 (Run 0, Clone 169, Gen 310)

-FAHMON NAME: 9600GT INDEX: 3 LOCATION: C:\Program Files (x86)\Electronic Arts\ LOCAL CLIENT: True CLIENT: Windows GPU Console Edition - Folding@Home Client Version 6.20r1 FLAGS: -forceasm -verbosity 9 CORE: Folding@Home GPU Core - Beta - Version 1.19 (Mon Nov 3 09:34:13 PST 2008) StartTime: 21:09:...
by MtM
Sat Nov 15, 2008 8:28 pm
Forum: Discussions of General-FAH topics
Topic: Quad-core 2Ghz vs Dual-core 4Ghz - Which faster?
Replies: 78
Views: 14438

Re: Dual-core 2Ghz vs Single-core 4Ghz - Which faster?

I'm not hot, I'm ice cold dissapointed in the fellow :lol:
by MtM
Sat Nov 15, 2008 8:08 pm
Forum: Discussions of General-FAH topics
Topic: Quad-core 2Ghz vs Dual-core 4Ghz - Which faster?
Replies: 78
Views: 14438

Re: Dual-core 2Ghz vs Single-core 4Ghz - Which faster?

And then I'm not even talking about the 'mistakes' in your post, it's just your pov in general being so wrong that I don't even need to. Allow me to point you at a snippet from the original post in this thread: The "talking" between cores doesn't do any calculations, so if i run SMP on 2G...
by MtM
Sat Nov 15, 2008 7:29 pm
Forum: Discussions of General-FAH topics
Topic: Suggestion [or how to eliminate slack time between WUs?]
Replies: 57
Views: 9599

Re: Suggestion

The BOINC project has done an excellent job of selling their donors on the fact that the BOINC concepts are universally the best way to do things and those donors come here periodically to the to sell FAH on doing it their way. That seems to be happening here. How about we accept the fact that the ...
by MtM
Sat Nov 15, 2008 7:26 pm
Forum: Discussions of General-FAH topics
Topic: Quad-core 2Ghz vs Dual-core 4Ghz - Which faster?
Replies: 78
Views: 14438

Re: Dual-core 2Ghz vs Single-core 4Ghz - Which faster?

In general, single fast core scales linearly up to the point where it is I/O (network/disk/memory) bound. Multiple cores scale linearly only if all the operations are completely independent. This is very rarely the case in practice, so in general usage, 1x 4GHz is going to be faster than 2x 2GHz. A...
by MtM
Sat Nov 15, 2008 4:53 pm
Forum: Discussions of General-FAH topics
Topic: Quad-core 2Ghz vs Dual-core 4Ghz - Which faster?
Replies: 78
Views: 14438

Re: Dual-core 2Ghz vs Single-core 4Ghz - Which faster?

Just a quick question. It's said SMP alot faster than classic because they have some program that can let cores "talk" to each other very fast? But does it really do any calculations? Does it do calculations. well no. What it does is allowing more calculations to be made per clock cycle (...
by MtM
Fri Nov 14, 2008 8:18 am
Forum: Discussions of General-FAH topics
Topic: Suggestion [or how to eliminate slack time between WUs?]
Replies: 57
Views: 9599

Re: Suggestion

MtM wrote, What you're describing is not what should and frankly what does happen, you're having problems which 99% of the donor community does not experience. So what you need to do imho, is open a thread about your issues and ask for help, and not blame the project for your particular configurati...
by MtM
Thu Nov 13, 2008 11:55 pm
Forum: Discussions of General-FAH topics
Topic: Which Client??
Replies: 2
Views: 490

Re: Which Client??

I wrote an installer for windows, most people report it to work correctly though idk about laptops. The code should recognize which inf section your nvidia card is using though.

www.mtm78.nl/maxfah/publish.htm
by MtM
Thu Nov 13, 2008 11:41 pm
Forum: Discussions of General-FAH topics
Topic: Suggestion [or how to eliminate slack time between WUs?]
Replies: 57
Views: 9599

Re: Suggestion

Please list me the number of current projects supporting gpu crunching with BOINC? I know only one, and their not nearly as far as f@h is in client development and therefore scientific results. There's only one currently available for public, with atleast 2 other projects working on CUDA/GPU, inclu...