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- Tue Jun 29, 2010 11:06 pm
- Forum: Discussions of General-FAH topics
- Topic: WU Shortages - Prevent cherry picking
- Replies: 8
- Views: 1062
WU Shortages - Prevent cherry picking
I'm not happy when I see WU shortages due to people cherry picking the work units that offer the most points or are looking for a specific project. I noticed that in the bonus point program, you have to ensure that you return at least X% of the work units issued to your account to get bonus points. ...
- Sat Apr 17, 2010 11:08 pm
- Forum: Issues with a specific WU
- Topic: GuruMeditation?
- Replies: 3
- Views: 654
GuruMeditation?
I'm not sure what this error is. [19:21:25] Completed 196600 out of 499375 steps (39%) [19:26:51] Completed 199800 out of 499375 steps (40%) [19:35:36] Completed 204800 out of 499375 steps (41%) [19:44:08] Completed 209800 out of 499375 steps (42%) [19:52:33] Completed 214700 out of 499375 steps (42...
- Sat Apr 10, 2010 3:32 am
- Forum: Discussions of General-FAH topics
- Topic: Universal Client
- Replies: 32
- Views: 4518
Re: Universal Client
My recommendation is that the Pande Group consider the following compromise. (That doesn't mean that they'll see it the way I do. :!: ) When a WU finishes, start uploading and downloading simultaneously. (Almost everybody's connection supports duplex data streams.) There's a good chance that the ne...
- Sat Apr 10, 2010 3:01 am
- Forum: Discussions of General-FAH topics
- Topic: Universal Client
- Replies: 32
- Views: 4518
Re: Universal Client
One fact that most people do not appreciate when they compare BOINC with FAH is that it's very important to minimize the total time starting when the WU is downloaded and ending when the result is uploaded. That means that the objective of the original design of the client was to get the results re...
- Fri Apr 09, 2010 8:53 pm
- Forum: Discussions of General-FAH topics
- Topic: Universal Client
- Replies: 32
- Views: 4518
Re: Universal Client
i was thinking more for -bigadv, 10 minutes isn't much but a big unit can take an hour to upload, thats a big waste of time for the kind of machine running bigadv It wouldn't hurt to experiment and verify this. But then, maybe if we had the CPU working on a new WU while previous is uploading, it wi...
- Fri Apr 09, 2010 8:41 pm
- Forum: Discussions of General-FAH topics
- Topic: Universal Client
- Replies: 32
- Views: 4518
Re: Universal Client
There is always a trade off. Higher compression slows down the client, delaying the uploads. It also has to be uncompressed at the other end too. Since they already use compression, would there really be that much improvement? If it is already compressed there is no improvement. I believe the gener...
- Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:28 am
- Forum: Discussions of General-FAH topics
- Topic: Unable to finish
- Replies: 11
- Views: 1394
Re: Unable to finish
Sure, there can be special exceptions to the rule. you could prioritize while still on first come first serve basis. there should be a good reason why you would prioritize one WU over any other other. and that isn't a major change to this suggestion. when I go to the grocery store check out lane, I ...
- Sun Apr 04, 2010 1:25 am
- Forum: Discussions of General-FAH topics
- Topic: Unable to finish
- Replies: 11
- Views: 1394
Re: Unable to finish
Rewarding those that break these recommendations would only slow down the relative science as more deadlines get necessarily extended. Under this suggestion, deadlines are -not- changed. Let me try to explain this better. first, the FAH servers are occassionally going to scan a list of WUs that hav...
- Sat Apr 03, 2010 7:57 pm
- Forum: How can we help FAH grow
- Topic: Answers to: Reasons for not using F@H.
- Replies: 188
- Views: 217687
Re: Answers to: Reasons for not using F@H.
Well it wouldn't have to "move" to boinc. it might be possible to do both boinc *and* the independent fah client at the same time.7im wrote:
And I know people who would leave fah if it moved to using a Boinc client. So, IMO, it's wash. Boinc would not improve the situation.
- Sat Apr 03, 2010 7:42 pm
- Forum: How can we help FAH grow
- Topic: Answers to: Reasons for not using F@H.
- Replies: 188
- Views: 217687
Re: Answers to: Reasons for not using F@H.
#3 is a nice feature, but unnecessary for fah. And you can run fah and Boinc side by side if you want, so again, adding that feature to fah has little benefit to fah. ;) One of the nice things of BOINC is that it allows you to crunch for multiple projects when you can't decide which single project ...
- Sat Apr 03, 2010 6:32 am
- Forum: Discussions of General-FAH topics
- Topic: Unable to finish
- Replies: 11
- Views: 1394
Re: Unable to finish
I've aabandoned a few WUs in the past when making changes to my network. I'm sure there are some people out there who probably don't keep their computers running long enough to finish even the smallest WU, but that should still count for something, ja? some people might give the -bigadv program a ch...
- Sat Apr 03, 2010 5:39 am
- Forum: Discussions of General-FAH topics
- Topic: Unable to finish
- Replies: 11
- Views: 1394
Re: Unable to finish
Sorry, WU handling doesn't quite work like that. There is no way to tell if the partial WU was caused by a WU problem, or by unstable hardware, or a communication problem. It's better and safer to start the WU from the beginning to assure data integrity. Scientific projects depend on data integrity...
- Sat Apr 03, 2010 2:00 am
- Forum: How can we help FAH grow
- Topic: Answers to: Reasons for not using F@H.
- Replies: 188
- Views: 217687
Re: Answers to: Reasons for not using F@H.
You have some valid points of view, but are a little biased towards customer support having come from that field. No academic project really excels at customer support. And I see things a little differently, having come from SETI I, and early Boinc development on SETI II, and having been with F@h a...
- Sat Apr 03, 2010 12:53 am
- Forum: Discussions of General-FAH topics
- Topic: Universal Client
- Replies: 32
- Views: 4518
Re: Universal Client
Okay so I assume that the SMP advantage is sharing memory accross threads; I can't think of any better reason. But regardless of why SMP is faster, my suggestion can still stand. The client can still be launching a SMP core *and* GPU core(s) from within the same client.
- Fri Apr 02, 2010 9:35 pm
- Forum: Discussions of General-FAH topics
- Topic: Unable to finish
- Replies: 11
- Views: 1394
Re: Unable to finish
my thoughts: it says that you can still send in results after the preferred deadline without credit. i imagine that the server should put this unfinished WU back into the queue at the back of the list (fifo) once determined to be late. if the client uploads the partially completed WU (before the fin...